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[00:00:00] When I started this series on exploring time. I really wanted to find a balance between scientific and mystical explorations of time. And that's because that's where I am. And I think it's where you are too. We really want to have. Great strategies. And a deep understanding of what is an evidence-based way of making the most of what we experience as time. 

[00:00:39] Bree: And also I wanted the mystical approach because when we are looking at quality of life, 

[00:00:45] We have to have room for our emotional and spiritual. Selves. So in today's episode, I'm speaking with my friend, Wendy Vigdor Hess. She is a visionary, a guide, a family health coach. 

[00:01:06] And intuitive healer. 

[00:01:08] Bree: a shaman or a registered dietician and author a speaker. and she's also a friend of mine. and the way that I approached this episode. Was a little different. I actually met with Wendy twice. I met with her first. 

[00:01:26] And got a reading from her. . So she works in the Akashic records. Akashic records or something that I had heard a fair amount about in my exploration of the mystical world. but I'm going to read you the Wikipedia definition of it. So it says the Akashic records are a compendium of all universal events, thoughts, words, emotions, 

[00:01:57] And intent. 

[00:01:58] Bree: Ever to have occurred in the past present or future. In terms of all entities and lifeforms, not just human. . There are anecdotal accounts, but no scientific evidence for the existence of the Akashic records. And, uh, Kaushik by the way, is the Sanskrit word for ether, sky or atmosphere. I really wanted to know more about the Akashic records. So I had Wendy do a reading for me. 

[00:02:32] And I didn't share. That reading here, , but we begin this episode. By reflecting on part of that reading. 

[00:02:42] So enjoy this episode with Wendy, Victor Hess and see if diving into the Akashic records might help you. Make the most of your time. 

[00:02:56] Bree: , so the, , recently you did a reading and a Kasha records reading with me, for me.

[00:03:03] Do you say four or with. It felt like a, 

[00:03:06] with you, like a with it's together. it's a, yeah, no, it's an experience together. 

[00:03:09] Bree: Yeah. And I won't get into it too much, but it was, first of all, it was really lovely and there's something about sharing space with another wise woman. I was thinking like, are we crones, are we calling ourselves crones yet?

[00:03:28] Are we Queens? Like, where are we? 

[00:03:30] Wendy: Priestess, , goddess. I dunno. We can go to all different. Yes, I think you're definitely all of the above. You're definitely a priestess, . All of the above. All of the above. 

[00:03:40] but you did this reading with me and one of the images that emerged was that I was with a true Kron

[00:03:48] who I really saw as my grandmother. and we were walking along a riverbank, but we were on the rocky side of this riverbank, and it was really hard to navigate, 

[00:03:58] Bree: and the river was passable too. It wasn't like a deep impenetrable river. right on the other side was, a, a grassy area that had like soft mossy, mossy, pads and grass, and it was so soft and lovely and welcoming. And yet I was choosing this rocky father. Well, Well, that's still accurate,

[00:04:20] But you know, on the other hand, just having that conversation, makes me realize sometimes that I'm making things harder for myself. and then it becomes a choice, right? Yep. Because then I can say, oh, I'm really navigating a rocky path right now. Why

[00:04:43] . Yeah. Why am I here? Am I looking for something? , are there things that I feel like I can only find on the rocky path? Mm-hmm. , is that true? . And maybe I can cross over just for a little while. . yes. 

[00:04:56] Wendy: A little 

[00:04:56] Bree: reprieve. That's right. That's right. Yeah. but then sometimes it's also like, well, the really cool snakes, and varmints and things that I'm interested in are under the stones on the rocky path.

[00:05:10] So that's a choice then to do that, right? Mm-hmm. , just make sure you're. looking for those things and enjoying those things. So anyway, that's . , that's 

[00:05:17] Wendy: Yeah. Exactly. 

[00:05:18] Bree: Letting you know how our reading has moved forward Yeah. Since then. Yeah. 

[00:05:25] Wendy: And it's like a perspective again, it brings in the perspective you can have the images and you can have, and I did, I remember getting a lot of images when we were, and I tend to but it's not the same for every person or every way it goes. Yeah. But the images were so vivid and so real, and the way you described it too, like there, there were two distinct ways and there's beauty in both, Yeah. And that's the thing too, is to bring that perspective of whatever I'm choosing, it can be.

[00:05:57] what I make of it too. So even if it's choosing the rocky, there can be the remembrance of the smoothie or the mossy or the grassy amidst that, because we're human. So , we can make that distinction in the moment, and it can help to have the, that imagery or that understanding in a different way.

[00:06:19] Bree: Yes. So a deep emotional and yes. Visual representation that we can come back to. Okay. People don't know what we're talking about. Yeah. So let's go . So let's go back so you are a healer , and we're talking specifically right now about akashic records.

[00:06:38] and we were just talking about a reading that you did. with me. Mm-hmm. , , but what are akashic records yes. Can you explain what this 

[00:06:47] Wendy: is? ? Yes. So it can sound like it's this big thing. And it is, it's beautiful.

[00:06:53] They are available to everyone and there's a way in which you can access them, which we can talk about too. But they contain all of the experiences and the consciousness, thoughts, actions, and emotions for each person as well as for the collective. So it's like a huge library with information and it supports the growth of each soul and really our planet as a whole in terms of what's in there.

[00:07:26] And I see it also as a consciousness raising tool. and an ability to really tap into some of those things. And it's really, it's a beautiful experience to, be in the records. there's just a lot available there. And so if you think of Harry Potter, like there's a scene in Harry Potter where they go in and I don't remember which one, but it's this massive building and they have there's a lot of gold around and they have all these like compartments and these things and it's like I, I can experience it like that in a way.

[00:07:59] Nice. it's if you think of a library or the old apotheker where they had all the drawers or all the things and it's but there's rooms and there's it's just, it's, it can be what really what our imaginations can take it to. and it looks different for each person when you're quote in the records of what that looks like for each person.

[00:08:16] Bree: So interesting and beautiful. I love the library metaphor and the apothecary. Yes. I can immediately see all the drawers . There's a lot of art that has been built out of old apothecary Yeah. Cabinets. And I think of like how exciting it is to pull open a drawer and see a little world , yes. . it also makes me think of like the Jungian Collective Unconscious. . Is it related to that? Do you see them as being related or, 

[00:08:46] Wendy: what's, it's such a good question cuz what I think is so interesting is I think that as a consciousness raising tool, if we go with that as a theme

[00:08:54] there's so many different ways that people can learn about themselves, can raise their own understanding, can get closer into their heart, can be more authentic in who they are. Like there's so many different ways and so many different pathways. And so I feel like it's, this is another pathway.

[00:09:12] and this is one pathway, like you can use this pathway alongside of a lot of other pathways. Like we're so multi-dimensional as people that we need more ways to do that because it's an exploration. So when we're exploring more about ourselves, like what better way to go towards what actually is calling our attention or what we're curious about or what we may be interested in, or where there may be people that we love that hang out in those places or, just, or we, there's people that hang out that we might feel a little bit intimidated about, but we still have that curiosity, so we might dip a little toe in.

[00:09:49] Wendy: SoI don't see it the same as that, but I see it as another avenue or as a, as like a almost parallel and that in my understanding of it, they're whatever way works for people and it's quote unquote works. I'm using little quotations because Yeah. what is the definition of works, and I think that's what's so beautiful about the records too, is that they can be explored for so many reasons.

[00:10:15] Yeah. whether it's about a particular habit or things that are happening or relationships or business or being, all sorts of things that happen. And so I think that, again, we do that, we might read about a subject we might explore youngian or dreams or, other kinds of things, And it's this isn't connected specifically to any of those things, but because it's connected to such a more universal understanding, in my experience, it's like it, that it's like connected to it all because it's more universal and it is, it's like about a global consciousness or a bigger picture understanding.

[00:10:55] And that's something that I think everyone can be curious about and be interested in. Doesn't mean that everyone is right. And that's a, certainly a choice right there. and yet there's so much beauty in that. 

[00:11:06] Bree: There is so much beauty in that, and I think anything that helps us feel more connected to each other, to find the points of relation yes, is such a valuable tool.

[00:11:19] I'd like to pause for a moment to talk about a project that I'm super excited about, and that is the rehearsal room. 

[00:11:29] The rehearsal room is an online open coaching membership. 

[00:11:34] Bree: So people can join at any time. And bring a project. Or something that you're working on that could be. 

[00:11:42] Uh, Ted talk, it could be a board presentation. It could be an audition piece. It could be a one-woman show. It could even be a difficult conversation that, you know, you need to have with a loved one. Or an employee. 

[00:11:57] And whatever it is, you can bring it to these weekly meetings. 

[00:12:02] And in these meetings, I offer open hot seat coaching. And we also have a really supportive community. 

[00:12:10] Bree: So you can get feedback if you want it from the whole community. 

[00:12:15] The rehearsal room is designed to be affordable. I wanted to offer something. That could really fit any price point. So the membership starts at just $9 a month. And again, you can sign up at any time. So if you're interested in joining the rehearsal room, And bringing a project to the table or just being a part of a community. 

[00:12:36] Then head over to the lovely unbecoming.com. Click on the rehearsal room. I fill out a quick application and you'll be on your way to being a member. I'd love to get in the rehearsal room with you. 

[00:12:50] And now back to the conversation with Wendy, Victor Hess. 

[00:12:54] Bree: What culture does Akashik record? What does it come from? 

[00:12:59] Wendy: Yeah. It's so interesting. I, it's not really a culture and it's more of an experience and it's more of a, of an opportunity to explore and it's really about our souls too.

[00:13:10] And you don't necessarily have to believe in like past lives or believe in that yet. It also is, it is a creative tool to understand ourselves more. . And it is when we are looking at ourselves as multifaceted individuals, we, whether you believe in reincarnation or you don't, or you believe that the soul has different journeys or you believe in the soul at all.

[00:13:36] It is a, it is an interesting thing when we can start to notice different patterns or relate it to different ways in which we are experiencing our own lives and realize, you know what? I've talked about this in therapy a lot, or I've, haven't I peeled the onion a million times on this one?

[00:13:52] We have like things that we understand in our own lives as we open up the door to choose to be more aware of some of our things in our life. And so it, it opens that experience up in a way that it can relate to so many different things 

[00:14:09] it is connected so big and yet it can't be pinpointed. to be. defined in a certain way. Like besides that, it's this massive library and the soul's journeys and all of the different experiences and thoughts and past lives and different things that can be explored there. It's almost like it also can't be defined, which is such an interesting conundrum, really

[00:14:31] Bree: But isn't that the nature of humanity? Like how can we define a soul? Yeah. Yeah. , we can try. , we can look to physics and look to biology and all the sciences to try to explain it. We can look to spirituality, we can look to religion. And it sounds like the word that you use is creativity.

[00:14:52] Yes. 

[00:14:52] Wendy: Yeah. That's a big, that's a big way. I see it too. 

[00:14:55] Bree: I love that because first of all, it's emerging out of creation. Also, for me, it feels a little more accessible, maybe certainly less threatening. , because I don't feel like, and I didn't, when we met, I didn't feel like you knew some secret about me that I didn't know.

[00:15:17] I think that's something that can be dangerous when we go to healers or spiritual leaders. There can sometimes, and this is in the last conversation that I had, we talked a little bit about cultish behavior and how to like, avoid that. . And I think that's a really key element is if someone or an approach it's making you feel, not enoughness and that you need this approach to feel enoughness, I think that can be problematic. That's where dogma comes in. Absolutely. 

[00:15:48] Wendy: I wholeheartedly agree with that. and I, one of the things that I love about the records and doing is that it's really the, it's about, and it sounds kind of fluffy or when, I don't know the word, but it's it's really about love.

[00:16:00] Yeah. it's really about this pure love and oneness and acceptance, and it's like a way that it can be like a reflection or a mirror of how amazing and magnificent we truly are. And we are like beyond what we can see, because most of the time in our human day-to-day, we're being hard on ourselves or we're judging, or we're wondering, or we're feeling like this person's better or that thing is better, or I'm, we're striving or we're all these things that have really, they're part of our, they're part of the duality of how we are living.

[00:16:33] And it is what also moves us forward because we can't. , the sun without the moon we need that duality and the polarity. And that all exists in the records and it exists in our existence. And it exists in our beingness. Yes. and so if we're touching on that, it's a way that if we're reflecting, it's what are we choosing to reflect?

[00:16:53] And even if things come up in the records that are, things that we lived through that were hard, or experiences that are hard, they're not reflecting from the place of hardship. They're re, they're reflecting what the lessons and the gifts are so that we can move on and that we can be, feel more of a freedom from those things.

[00:17:14] And a thank you. , like not a freedom, oh good, I'm done with that and yet yeah, it could be that, but it also can be like a thank you and a gratitude of, I went through that so that I can be having this understanding now. Yeah. . And the other thing I would say is that really in the reflection, it's very much about empowerment because it's very much about,yes, I happen to be the other person across from whomever I'm doing this with, and it's not about me, , it is about the other person.

[00:17:44] And it's also, it's almost bigger than that. Even in that the information that comes is really connected to your guides, my guides to the highest. II call in the highest benevolent beings. And again, whether you believe in that or not, whether you believe in your higher self, yet, I know my intention with that.

[00:18:04] So it's really about keeping a safe container. And it's also about your empowerment and feeling good about yourself from having the information, but not from my, I'm gonna make them feel good. , but more just that's what comes through , from that place of curiosity that you want to grow and change and learn and evolve.

[00:18:22] and though that can happen from the other experiences we were just talking about that's taking the power out of your hands. And this is about it is about being more sovereign and being really within ourselves because our experience is a reflection, in my opinion, of what's happening intrinsically with us.

[00:18:44] Wendy: And there is research on that about the subconscious running the show more and so it gives us an opportunity to go into more of that so that we can learn more about what are those things that I may not have seen yet about myself. Yeah. Because I have this intention that's going this way, but it seems to be going the other way.

[00:19:00] and we may not, it's a blind spot. Sure. So it gives us that opportunity to be in that creativity and play with it and make it more playful and fun. rather than the dogma or the heaviness , even if it is for a hard reason. 

[00:19:15] Bree: I love that you brought up the word sovereignty, . It's 

[00:19:20] Wendy: a powerful one.

[00:19:21] Yeah. 

[00:19:22] Bree: And you said earlier oh, love, fluffy word. It's a fluffy word. And then it's so not right. Yes. It's so not, it's so not, it's, this is the problem with words is that , when they become so used , then we lose our connection to them, and then we suddenly rediscover a connection to a word like love.

[00:19:40] When we fall in love or when we feel love, when we get in touch with it on this like deeply physical, emotional. Level, then suddenly we're like, it's the best word ever. And everybody else is like, yeah, we've been there. Exactly. Exactly. And sovereign, where, by the way, I just wanna say love is incredible.

[00:20:03] Wendy: Totally, yeah. And it's divine love too. It's real. It's like a deeper, it's not because sometimes in our day-to-day lives, and I do it my, you know, I love you, you know, as I'm saying goodbye to my family,and it's it can have this kind of perfunctory, kind of feeling to it.

[00:20:17] But when we're in the presence of the moment, it's really a, it's really about presence. and that's what the records speak to too, is like, what are we choosing to be present to?

[00:20:27] And like you spoke about, do I wanna be on the rocky. , and it becomes that choice. , but it is bringing presence and we can bring presence to the crappy situations that we have and we can bring presence to the most joyful and amazing and whatever that, and in our culture, we tend to like, oh, we're supposed to be in this like happy, joy place all the time.

[00:20:46] And that's just not real. And that doesn't do us any justice really. That's not part of the sovereign 

[00:20:51] experience. 

[00:20:53] Bree: So what is the sovereign experience that's a good 

[00:20:56] Wendy: question. Yeah. to me, I feel like, we are here to learn and grow as individuals, as souls. And that we're here to evolve and to be our most authentic selves.

[00:21:08] Bree: And to do that, we are taught that it's outside of us. But the truth is that it's really from the inside. And if our experience is lending itself, To that opportunity and we bring awareness to that. That's such a gift. I keep thinking of the blade of grass that grows despite the sidewalk despite inhospitable conditions, the blade still uses everything in its little mite to grow.

[00:21:45] and we as humans, struggle. Like we struggle to grow when things get difficult, and maybe that gets into victimhood a little bit, which I think a lot of religions do encourage this kind of victim, victim mentality. , honestly. . And so having something that really encourages sovereignty in that way is such a gift.

[00:22:16] Even just to remember it for a moment so you can take the next action. It's not all fluffy. It's about what action do you take? 

[00:22:23] Wendy: Absolut. Yeah, and I love your point too, because the other thing that I think is so powerful is that the sovereign doesn't exclude that there's a universal force, and you can call it God, you can call it creation, you can call it the universe, you can call it great mystery, and that goes back to different religions 

[00:22:41] so it's not exclusionary of anything. It's more, again, what is your pathway to it and amidst that, how are you keeping your center to know where you are with what you believe, unrelated to what you may have been told, whether it's by parents or teachers or experiences that you've had or the world, or what the news says or all of these different ways in which we're just constantly bombarded with all of this information and where, we have to pause, like pause to go Exactly. You know, to say what do I believe? Where am I in this? Yeah. Because it's so easy to get lost in all of that and to quote, buy into what's being told. But when we really take those pauses, we can, do I believe that? Or what is that? and I think the other thing that I would say too is that, we become our most authentic selves and you know, it's an evolution to that, we're always uncovering, we're always doing the rocks and finding the snakes, or finding whatever we're doing . and yet the, that experience is also that it allows us to, at some point have a deep understanding of ourselves so that we do understand our inner workings.

[00:23:54] And then there is this opening up to being of service. And that is the divinity , that is why we're here. so it's like, again, like you're talking about the steps, it's like the steps on our journey towards that authentic understanding of ourselves so that we are freer to actually truly give from this place, truly be in our purpose.

[00:24:15] Truly doing what we love, truly doing, and listening to what those little knocks are that may come in the hard lessons. are you gonna get it yet? Or, they may come in the softer lessons, but they're gonna come in both. Again, there's no right or wrong with that. It's just part of the experience.

[00:24:32] Bree: But we can have more understanding and joy around that. not in every moment. Cuz sometimes it really sucks and you're just like, this is not so great . One of the things that we were gonna talk about today is time. , and you've mentioned the word journey a couple of times.

[00:24:45] Time,time comes up so many times. Yes. but journey feels very linear to me. maybe it isn't. But I would just love to begin with your journey. To coming to this place of service what is your path? 

[00:24:58] Wendy: Ooh, this is a juicy question. . so yeah, so it's interesting cuz I feel like I've seen it more recently in thirds in a way. so I'm an empath and a sensitive and an intuitive and have been for most of my life, probably all of it.

[00:25:14] Bree: When was the first time that you remember being aware of. being sensitive or empathic or aware anda way that might have been different from your peers? 

[00:25:29] Wendy: So to, if I'm gonna be honest, I feel like I've always felt like I'm around peg in a square hold kind of person in a way. Welcome . Yes. Welcome. And I think that for a lot of my, childhood and growing up and through a long time, really it was about, this is so uncomfortable, I don't want this. So I just wanna do what I can to fit in and to be normal and to be like the others 

[00:25:56] and I didn't really know what to do with it, per se. But I was aware that I was sensitive. Like I, I remember doing volunteering I was like a candy. . Striper

[00:26:06] and I remember like easily being able to cry or would just feel people, and I've always had this interest in people I could just talk like, just talk together and learn what about you?

[00:26:17] No, what about you? Like that kind of sensitivity and like a tuning in to people and human beings and the experience of it all. And I feel like, so it was early on that I realized that, and in terms of intuition, I didn't really know what that was defined or anything. but I feel like as I got a little older, after I graduated college even.

[00:26:38] and I was living in New York City at the time, and I went into this cool bookstore, it was huge. And I bought one of my first spiritual books and it led me on this journey was, again, the journey. Mm-hmm. , and , it's been a process of taking it more seriously and coming into myself.

[00:26:56] So I would say in the beginning, like when I speak about parts , it's what I was coming through of trying to be someone other than myself really. And, and in some of the victimhood or the poor me or the, really feeling different and feeling uncomfortable and not always being seen or met with my needs and at times being told not to cry and it feeling uncomfortable.

[00:27:18] Like, how can you not, like when this is happening and the suffering I think there's an element of feeling that so then it came to more of the discovery of really opening up like, wow. okay, all this exists. And I think that's what's cool, and I'm reminded of this, so I'm gonna say it, but it's like when you're, when we were speaking earlier about this notion of if it's been proven or not in the discovery, it's a discovery So we don't know if something's proven, but again, it's that ability to be able to see, does this resonate for me? . And there's no right or wrong answer in that. It's just a personal question of does this resonate for me? . And so that's like the discovery of wow and opening up to all these different things.

[00:27:59] And then it was sort of running both tracks of this person who was in the intuitive woo out there, wow. this is huge , this is fun for me. And then the like, whoa. But you can't do that because you need to. Like, you know, it's like when you in cultural conversa, it's oh, you're, , you're supposed to, oh, you're supposed to get married, then you're supposed to buy a house. Then you're supposed to have 2.2 kids, and then you're supposed to this, and then you're supposed to get a job and this and da. it's like undoing all of that. . And that's the discovery is undoing to choose what it is for you.

[00:28:32] And then I feel it's moving more into the recognition of knowing more and more who I am or who we are, I feel like the choice really comes in there because it's not to say that the drama and the stuff doesn't still come up of the historical, oh my God, I don't fit in here and should I speak what I really mean?

[00:28:53] Or is it gonna be judged or, you know, all that stuff still comes up. Yeah. then it's what am I gonna choose here? Yeah. And how am I gonna be most authentic in the moment? And what does that look like? And sometimes we don't know, and it's messy and we, do what we do.

[00:29:07] But I feel like that's been in a small nutshell, the journey. And I, like meeting people in those ways because it's, it, it has helped me to understand people more because I. when you feel like the round peg in the square hole. And I get it when you're struggling and you feel negative and you're hard on yourself and you're trying to fit in and you're trying to not feel alone , I'm so grateful to it because it has helped me to understand myself and to understand other people and to see that there really is the oneness in that too.

[00:29:41] Even with all the things in the world right now, it's so easy to create opportunities to separate and it's just not my nature. , I feel like we're here for oneness and to bring the unity and to bring that ability to connect with people no matter what.

[00:29:58] Wendy: And I love that about you cuz you've spoken about that on other. episodes where you can speak with people who have different political views mm-hmm. and having a conversation. Cuz people are people and you don't know if your neighbor thinks one way but it on some level, it doesn't matter.

[00:30:14] When we can step out and just see people as we're all having our own experience and we all have our own history and we came to our own understandings from a certain place. And when that person or us or whoever is willing to open up to a different understanding, it's available to us.

[00:30:33] Bree: Yes. When that opens up, it feels like such a release yeah. So I live out in the county in Virginia. . You live in the county too? Yeah. Different counties. A different county live and it's still counting. So we're country group. There's just two country girls sitting here talking

[00:30:50] and in my neighborhood, and I would suspect also in yours, there are pretty widely disparate political beliefs. Mm-hmm. and and ideologies coming forth. And at the peak of the last election cycle, it felt pretty contentious. It felt a little scary. And we had neighbors, they've since moved away, which is sad actually because of what I'm about to say.

[00:31:17] Bree: But we felt, , I felt a, a fear I didn't wanna run into them, I didn't wanna talk to them. , and I felt like they felt the same way. . and then, one of them got sick. They had a medical issue, and then suddenly we were there for each other as neighbors.

[00:31:36] And that recognition of we're all human, we all suffer, we're all mortal, . pain is universal and also the trash has to be taken out and the groceries need to be delivered and all of those things. Suddenly we had a point of connection that was so mundane. And irrefutable that it then opened up our hearts Yep.

[00:32:05] In a completely different way. And we still disagree, . 

[00:32:09] Wendy: Yeah. I have chills though. That's so beautiful. 

[00:32:12] Bree: I'm so grateful for that experience. but it just, it's something that I remind myself of every time I feel those feelings of judgment or fear about what might happen if we connect with the uncomfortable.

[00:32:29] Thank you for bringing up that memory. it's an important one for me to keep in mind, . 

[00:32:35] Wendy: Yeah. I think for all of us, and I think it's been a time of us looking at all of those things and what, in the ways that we. , see the world and see what's happening.

[00:32:43] And it's been a real stirring of the pot these last few years, and yeah. More so than others in a lot of our history that, in the time that we've been alive, it's not to say that hasn't happened for our ancestors or for even our elders who have lived through other experiences, but I think that's, this has definitely been a time of great 

[00:33:02] Bree: change.

[00:33:03] And we are experiencing it. , the truth is that we are the ones who are grappling with it and finding our own growth. in this generation of humans living in these bodies that we live in. Yes. , can I get granular? Yeah. Like how do you access the records?

[00:33:24] Wendy: So there's different ways. So I often will,it's a little bit different with each person in terms of some of the things that I do. But, in general it's like a prayer. So it's, I may open space, I may, light a candle, I may ground us or, and certainly myself beforehand.

[00:33:43] Bree: How do you ground, yeah. What are some of your techniques for grounding, because a lot of people talk about grounding. 

[00:33:50] Wendy: It's very important. for me, I can tend to, just as you can, you may hear my excitement in talking about this, I can tend to get just super excited, and be out there with it.

[00:34:00] And so to ground it, cuz it's important to really have it be from a grounded place. . And so for me that looks like a number of different things, but one of the things is to literally go outside and feel my feet on the earth and just be with it and take some breaths and I, I go out in all different weather.

[00:34:20] But if, just for anyone listening, just there, if you don't want to go outside or there's snow on the ground or it's too cold or it's not your thing, you can imagine that just wherever you're sitting and you can imagine your feet going into the earth deep into the earth and then, feeling it like through.

[00:34:37] The floor that you're, they're touching or through wherever you are. And then in through all the layers of the soil, through where the plants are hibernating through, you can have, you can just have fun with it, but to really feel what it's like to really be down deep. And if you're a gardener, if you're someone who works with your hands in the dirt, really like connect to that and feel what it's like to really be in that.

[00:35:01] and then to, I bring it down all the way to the center of the earth. . And sometimes it's,it's often like a crystal in core that I see and that I experience. And so it's bringing it down. And then I'm also really having intention around what I'm giving to the earth when I'm doing that.

[00:35:20] So if I'm feeling particularly stressed or I'm feeling heady, or I'm feeling, ungrounded or scattered, \ we all have a million different things, , and we can be feeling that are taking us out of the present moment. Sure. But the point for me to be grounded is to be in my most present state.

[00:35:38] Wendy: And it can be as simple as just literally, like it's taking longer to describe it than it does to actually do it. and having that intention of going deep into the earth. And just do some breath work and connect through my breath to ground myself.

[00:35:54] And I may play with the numbers of, breathe in for four, hold for four, release for four, or breathe in for four, hold for six. it like, there's different ways. and just seeing what works for whomever is trying it. . And then there's other ways in terms of the prayerful. For me, making a ritual out of it is something that I really enjoy doing.

[00:36:15] So it could just be as simple as lighting a candle. and bringing presence to that and seeing the light of the candle reflecting the light in me and my grounding and that I'm here, and just the feeling of a lighter or a match, that, that is very, bringing us back to a present moment. It's very tactile and sometimes it's like a swiping.

[00:36:39] I have a lot of different things but I think that it's helpful to have different things and for people to also determine what that is for them because it's, it is a personal thing, and again, that goes back to the sovereign of these are all ideas. Mm-hmm. , some may resonate for you, some may not.

[00:36:55] Mm-hmm. . And so it's that exploration of oh, I'm gonna try that. Oh, that didn't work for me, but maybe if I breathe five times, or maybe if I only breathe three because that four feels like too much. Or, it can be u using it and then making it your own. , and there's so many different ways to do that.

[00:37:10] Bree: I'm totally taking notes, , as you're describing it. But it really sounds like for you, grounding is about truly coming to the present moment and having presence in that moment.

[00:37:26] . And I think that's an important distinction to make because when we are deeply present, then we are open. Yeah. And ready. And we're also in a place of, and this is me, this is my own, this is my own stuff coming in. But I would say sublime discernment. That we can really feel immediately whether something feels resonant or discordant.

[00:38:01] or wrong. Just wrong. 

[00:38:03] Wendy: I think when we tune into our bodies too, it's like an opportunity and I think so much of the time, for me anyway, cuz it's been an experience also that was part of, some of my stories is getting embodied to have an embodied experience. and to not be in a frozen place or a numb place or a fearful place where when you're clenching and you're like, it brings more of that in. And again, it's not making any of those bad, it's more just okay, when I can actually be here grounded feeling what I'm feeling we can have more of that discernment around what is it that I'm feeling and does this resonate or does it not?

[00:38:41] . And I feel like in the nitty gritty that you said of the opening of it all, and it's almost like it's not about me being there. It's about being out of the way almost that I'm in such a state or I aim to be in such a state of presence that I'm out of the picture. Yeah.

[00:38:58] Wendy: But I'm not numb and I'm so present that there's like this feeling of you've talked about this in other episodes when you're in like, you just had at the, I'm not remembering the title, but the, when you're having so much fun that the time goes by. Yeah.

[00:39:09] you don't, yeah. You're a state of flow. You're in such a state of flow. Yeah. And that's presence. Yeah. , we're not out of the picture. , we're fully immersed in the picture. . It's just that we have a different understanding of it because we are so immersed in it that , there's nothing to be thinking ahead about or to be analyzing or to be, wondering about or any of that.

[00:39:28] Wendy: And so I feel like that's such, that's such a beautiful way of bringing up presence. 

[00:39:33] this is really helpful for me too, cuz one of the things that I have a lot of resistance about is when people. give a really great lesson or share something really insightful and wonderful, and they say they've channeled it.

[00:39:45] . Sometimes when people say, I've channeled this, it immediately makes me feel, more skeptical. of it, it's a word, right? It's a word that doesn't resonate with me. . Yeah. A word that, yeah. but if I think of that as oh, what they may mean , is that they grounded themselves and reached a state of presence and flow so that the ideas could move through them and they could communicate it in a way that they couldn't when they were blocking themselves.

[00:40:18] Bree: That makes sense. Yes. , 

[00:40:20] Wendy: that's beautiful. That is so beautiful. So thank 

[00:40:22] Bree: you for unlocking that. Yes. Because it's really, it really gets under my skin and now it won't anymore. . Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:40:28] Wendy: That's beautiful. I love that. And that's, yeah. That is how, that's how I see it. Yeah. Actually, and I have it, I have used the word channeled sometimes, , it's not something that I use, often. , but I will use it cuz it does feel like it's not me coming through me and it's for the benefit of whoever is there.

[00:40:46] And it's for whether I'm doing it as a group thing or I'm doing it individually and it's, and to me it helps take me out of the equation. Yeah. and yet it is something that is, it is, it does bring some discomfort in a way. of the word or of what we're doing. And also I think of the integrity around it as well.

[00:41:07] . Because I do think that there,there, there is something that when we're going into these realms or into this, that there is an element of that it's very important that you're working with someone that you do feel a resonance with or that you do feel a connection with. that you can feel that sense of safety 

[00:41:22] Wendy: and in my own healing experiences of doing shamanism training and different things that I've done, I've remember being very, even though I felt very safe with who I was working with, a number of times that I've done these different trainings, the, there's still that vulnerability and that letting go and surrender and trust and faith and things that still felt very scary to me.

[00:41:45] . And it's something that I knew I was okay. And again, I'm saying this in a way that I'm putting my power into their hands. I knew I was okay because they had my back, or they, and yet part of it was, I knew that they were holding it with such integrity 

[00:41:59] Wendy: that it wasn't about them either. Yeah. And I could feel that. Yeah. 

[00:42:03] Bree: And that's important. It's very important. . Yeah. And sometimes it's hard to know. So 

[00:42:09] Wendy: Yeah, it is. It is. And I think what you said though, too about like when you're in that, where you can be in that pause place of feeling it out and seeing, or, talking to them or having an introductory call or, following them for a while or, whatever. If it's something that like, it's someone that you're looking to maybe do some work with or something like that,those are ways that can be explored 

[00:42:30] Bree: yeah. And resistance is powerful. I have learned to be happy when resistance rears her head. Yes. Because it, it reminds me to take a deeper look. Yep. because it's always a guide.

[00:42:43] Yes, absolutely. and sometimes it's an indication of oh good, this is something you need to move through. And sometimes it's back. The hell outta this one. yeah. 

[00:42:52] Wendy: I'm outta here. 

[00:42:53] Bree: Wrong route, wrong avenue. Let's go down the next road. Exactly. yeah. 

[00:42:57] Wendy: the other thing I would say, and yeah. Is that there are different prayers that I say one from some of, my teachers that I've, that I learned from and also, The ri the ritual aspect of it, creating the sacredness of it. And also, toning can also be a way using my voice.

[00:43:16] It's like a vibration or a frequency and just opening up to what that is. And that can be created when the two people are together or when, when, whether it's for a group. when I do the group ones or just individually,there's a frequency, there's a, it's like when you hear the crickets at night and you can hear that like the humming or the, there's like a, there's a theme al almost. 

[00:43:43] Bree: And then you get the harmony. Yes. And several things that you've talked about, the. , the the vocal intonation, the flow, the presence when you have two people who have reached that state of presence together.

[00:44:01] There is something when you have a collective, which can be two and you're both in that place, then there is it.

[00:44:10] there is a gestalt. There's like a larger impact. the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. That's the beauty of a group. 

[00:44:19] Wendy: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. And it's magic. and that could be a buzzword too, that can be offputting, , but it's that feeling of, you're in the right place at the right time doing the right thing.

[00:44:30] It's that flow again. It's that wow. . And that goes back to what we were talking about of that's why we're here, because we are meant,we're community beings. Like we're meant to connect. We're meant to do things together and make a difference together. And so when we can have those opportunities to do that, 

[00:44:48] even if it's around hard stuff, it's it makes it easier, 

[00:44:51] Bree: it's like, what's that? Maybe, especially if it's around hard stuff. Absolutely. 

[00:44:55] Wendy: It's what's that? What's that thing? more hands make for 

[00:44:57] Bree: less. There's like a many hands make lighter 

[00:45:00] Wendy: work As work or, yeah. Like that.

[00:45:02] and just, yeah. Making it like it's more fun and it's, it does, it makes it easier. You have people you don't feel alone. 

[00:45:09] Bree: So you use sound, you use ritual, you use grounding, you use prayer all to really create this sacred present moment. And then what happens? , 

[00:45:27] it depends, but usually people will come with an intention.

[00:45:30] Wendy: So it could be around, A habit or a belief system or something they're noticing or an irritating kind of thing that repeats or their businesses, or relationships, sole purpose.

[00:45:42] So it could be around lots of different things to explore . And so it, the person comes with an intention and if they don't know an intention, that's okay too. , because we can work with that and see what is going to arise. Cuz usually in the conversation or in what happens, you can tune into something.

[00:45:58] And so then I will go more specifically into the records and I call in. , my guides, their guides, higher selves, benevolent be, who, 

[00:46:09] Bree: whoever. And when you say I go specifically into the records Yeah. Does that mean that you imagine going into a place that you visualize something? What does it mean to go into the records?

[00:46:22] Wendy: That's such a good question., I tend to be very visual. so we have all the senses, so it can be visual, it can be auditory, it can be sensory, it can be a lot of different things for both myself and the person or the people that are experiencing.

[00:46:35] And so there's no one way usually though, when I'm first going in, it tends to be quite visual. that tends to be one of my stronger clares, if you will. . And so I tend to see things, and then what happens is I will explain what I'm seeing. . So I've said the prayer I've made the intention we're in the safe container with the guides, the higher si, all of that.

[00:46:59] and then it's more visual usually. And there's a way in which I enter and usually it's like I'm outside and then I go through a tunnel, if you will, or a pathway, or it can be different. Uhhuh, . I don't see the same thing. It depends on who's there. and then I go, and this tends to be similar, but it goes to like more of a place where I can see there's, guardians of the records.

[00:47:21] . So I asked permission. , cuz it's the person's guardians. and so I asked permission and that's the permission is also, that's an important piece. The permission is also early on. . So it's before we're even doing this that I have permission when I'm saying the prayer.

[00:47:35] Wendy: I'm saying the prayer, and then I'm also getting the permission of the person. . So that's part of it too. Thank you for doing 

[00:47:40] Bree: that. Yeah. . 

[00:47:41] Wendy: Yeah. Yeah. It's a big piece, it is. it's a, it's, it's a vulnerable place. but then when I get to the guardians and asking permission, then sometimes they look a certain way.

[00:47:51] , sometimes I get a sense about the guardian. So everything, once I'm in, in this part of it already, everything has meaning to a certain extent. Mm-hmm. , I may not understand what it means , but when I'm speaking it to the person, they may be like, oh, that reminds me Yes. When I was da, da, da.

[00:48:06] Wendy: Or they might be like, oh, I've had that memory, or I've had that un, that dream, but I've never unknown what that is. Or it can be all sorts of things. and sometimes it's not familiar at all, and sometimes it's dark. . And sometimes I'm like, what does this mean? And, and it's really a, it's a collaboration.

[00:48:23] between. the person and myself and working with what's happening and the guides and everything that is happening. And so then it's going in and usually, depending on what it is, there's different rooms or different places that I would visit within the records, but I'm already in the records at that point.

[00:48:40] . And so then we're just doing more of a deep dive in exploration and the messages come in different ways and, and that's it. We never know what that means. And so how do you leave? So I leave similarly , so I leave once it feels like there's closure depending on what kind of session we're having there can be,more of release things. There can be retrievals of things. there can be,just bringing closure or bringing understanding or forgiveness or different things that, depending on what arises, and then once there feels like there's a natural closure to that. Depending on the topic, sometimes they're multiple sessions.

[00:49:17] Wendy: like a conflict in a relationship or with a business, sometimes they're more like half day or four sessions or things like that. So there're there's, there's closure with a particular aspect and , that's communicated that we feel that and then I go out the same way I came. But it often can look different. Huh. Because oftentimes what shows in the beginning is, something maybe that's telling for what we're, what may be coming and then on the way out it's telling in a different way. of what, what has transpired or transformed 

[00:49:50] So that's how it comes out. And then sometimes there's. , little exercises or suggestions or things that the guides give before I come out, that can be helpful to, to integrate further or to explore in your own time, because sometimes it's a lot of information that comes through andit's not meant to be a one and done, or not necessarily that it can't be one session, but that it's not meant to be like a okay.

[00:50:15] an hour ago I was here and now , here I am, and . So it's, it's really, it's sometimes is a sitting with and a really allowing and just letting it unfold from that perspective. 

[00:50:26] Bree: Yeah. The tools for integration and the rituals for integration, are so key to really understanding and moving forward with new knowledge no matter what it is.

[00:50:42] Absolutely. . so I love that you mentioned briefly the Claires . Yes. and I nodded because I think I understand what you're talking about, but can you take us through what the Claires are? 

[00:50:56] Wendy: Yes. So Claire's in general are the ways that we receive information. And I believe that everyone is intuitive and that's, one of the things that people are like, oh, I'm not creative, or Oh, I'm not intuitive, or Oh, we're so quick to say what we're not. And I believe that we have all of this.

[00:51:15] It's available to all of us. And we do, we get nudges. Even if you don't have to be a healer. You don't have to be, a psychic to be intuitive we get nudges, , and then we'll say, oh, I should have done that. I did this, but I should have done that. I got the little thing that I should have turned that way.

[00:51:31] Or, and it could be about really small things. So that's what we're talking about is how we receive information and how in learning styles there can be that, . Oftentimes we talk about it with children, but it really applies to everyone, is that someone is a kinesthetic learner.

[00:51:46] They learn more through their body, or they learn more auditory. they hear things and it helps them, or they verbalize they need to talk. And so the Claires are similar. they're obviously a different mo modality, I but Claire, so the Claires are speaking more around how you receive intuitive information.

[00:52:05] And Clair boyn is the seeing. So I was saying that I tend to see things, so I do tend to see things and experience things that way, through imagery, through pictures . And then clear auditory is through hearing. So I might hear something, I might hear a phrase, I might hear a word, I might hear a sound.

[00:52:29] So that's clear. Audient, Claire, sentient is like an overall feeling, like you sense something. 

[00:52:37] Bree: So CLE sentient is when you really have a feeling about something. Yeah. And then there's a fourth one too, 

[00:52:43] Wendy: right? Yeah. And the fourth one is the clear cognizant, and that one is more of the knowing.

[00:52:50] Like you just have a knowing and you might not even know how, you know, but you know. 

[00:52:53] Bree: Great. We're almost out of time. Yeah. , what is a hope that you have for humans who are really in that space of not being fully present? Who want to be living a purposeful life that's fulfilling? Where they can really grow? Where they can grow? and be their best selves. what is a wish or a piece of advice that you have for them?

[00:53:23] that they're not alone in wherever they are is a big one. That they can, if they feel lost at the moment or they feel like they have that intention but aren't arriving there or getting there or experiencing what they see, others experiencing that there, there is such a hope there. So I love that word that you're bringing that up.

[00:53:41] , and they're not alone in that. And that they can, uh, remember in those moments too, of how much they are loved and even connect to what, even what I was speaking about with the grounding, like just connecting or getting out in nature or recognizing whatever works for them to feel like they can be in that flow.

[00:54:01] Wendy: It might be taking a bath, it might be lighting a candle, it might be grounding outside, it might be taking a walk. It might be hugging a tree. , it might, it could be, it might be gardening. It doesn't matter what it is, but to turn their attention on the thing that brings them more pleasure and the thing that brings them joy.

[00:54:18] because when we're in that space, it brings more of that, if you will. and it turns our attention on what we're not doing and what we hope to achieve, and we can instead be in the faith that it's in process happening and that it's right there. We just aren't seeing it in the moment.

[00:54:36] , it doesn't mean it's not there. 

[00:54:37] beautiful. Beautiful. I love that. It's not so much that you want every moment to be pleasurable and enjoyable, enjoyful, but that by having those touchstones of those places and giving ourselves the space to feel those feelings, it helps us to develop our faith, and I would say to be more resilient than in the face of struggle.

[00:55:07] Bree: Absolutely. So really beautiful and thank you for being such a remarkable guide through that place. It's such a joy to know you. How can people get in touch with you? Thank 

[00:55:17] Wendy: you. . so people can get in touch with me through my website and that'll be in the notes. Yep. ,, through my website they can find a way to join my mailing list learn more and just be part of more what's happening and they can see a way to contact me there. And I am on Facebook and I am going to start to be on Instagram more. Yay. yes, I'm coming with this century now, . so yeah, they can find me just under my name, 

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[00:55:45] Wendy: Wendy Vigdor Hess for both of those things. And then I have a business page that's, Wendy Victor Hess, l c. And I do have a group on Facebook, common empowered women, so those, which is 

[00:55:57] Bree: great because we know the power of a group.

[00:55:59] Thank you so much for joining us. 

[00:56:01] Wendy: Thank you for having me.