May 15, 2024

Components of Truth

Components of Truth

What if forgetting isn't bad?What if I'm a photographer that doesn't take enough photos of her family?What if you can see all of the "problems" more clearly but still aren't yet able to "solve" them?Want to chat about this stuff live while working on...

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Help Me See - Living Through Seeing

What if forgetting isn't bad?

What if I'm a photographer that doesn't take enough photos of her family?

What if you can see all of the "problems" more clearly but still aren't yet able to "solve" them?


Want to chat about this stuff live while working on your craft?
Sacred Seeing Membership for Creatives


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Lewis Hyde says.

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Let us reclaim, forgetting as a component of truth.

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Let us reclaim forgetting as a component of truth.

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I feel like.

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Photographs had been washed.

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So hard with this.

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Idea that photographs are so we don't forget.

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So we don't forget.

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So we don't forget.

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So we don't forget.

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It's like, whoa.

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Photographs or so we can see.

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Now.

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So we can see it more now.

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The not forgetting is a beautiful.

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Idea.

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It's a beautiful byproduct.

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It's not always accurate.

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Even if you do have a photograph.

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It's not a sure-fire way.

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Of remembering.

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But this is what excited me so much is that.

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To not only.

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Stop using forgetting as something negative.

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This is bad.

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This is bad.

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But to then go on to classify it as.

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A component of truth, like think about what is it to forget.

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Like, what is it to forget? Help Me See is a podcast dedicated to the art of seeing.

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It's a space for the restless visionary with an insatiable desire to create the life and work you're meant for.

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My name is Bianca Lea Mora, and I'm a photographic artist, a mother, and a coach who's transformed my fear of loss into power, art, and philosophy.

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One of the scariest quotes I never want to say is, I wish I knew at the time, but I truly believe that we have the innate ability to bring our wise 2020 hindsight to our now.

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You can deeply experience your nostalgia now, while it's actually happening, with no regrets.

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All you have to do is see.

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In this show, we laugh, we cry, we get inspired, we overshare, we have life changing conversations around making meaning, self discovery, and shedding all the BS layers in order to reconnect to our own sacred vision.

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Seeing yourself is an essential key to living powerfully.

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You are the vessel, the lens that filters absolutely everything in your life.

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What are you filtering for? Whether it be conversations with fellow artists and visionaries, or my solo audio journal style introspective ramblings, each episode is meant to feel like an exhale, an unraveling of truth, a moment for you to be able to put your finger on something that you haven't been able to for far too long.

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Come exactly as you are.

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It's perfect.

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Honor your instincts.

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Let's uncover some of the most important things in our lives which all too often can slip out from our view.

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Let's commit to seeing and consciously creating what only you can in your one and only life.

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Let's dive in.

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Help me.

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I just want to say, help me see.

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Like welcome to another episode of help me see, and it just came out, helped me.

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I think I meant it meant it.

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I really meant it helped me.

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My partner just wanted to take.

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The kids to their sports.

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Um, class for the first time on his own.

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And I'm like, oh, I get time by myself.

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Oh my gosh, you have to scurry downstairs and record my podcast episode.

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And.

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Just do some stuff.

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I don't know, just be alone and do some stuff.

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And I just spent the last 20 fucking minutes.

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Looking for the core to connect my microphone.

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To my computer.

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And um, serves me right for leaving it out.

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Well, I know the boys come down here randomly.

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And I finally found it.

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Uh, with bite marks on it.

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bite marks.

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On the.

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On the part that connects to the microphone.

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So that's great.

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That's great.

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How are you? Where you dear soul.

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I just recorded a.

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Instagram story for the first time in a long time with my face.

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I used to do it a lot.

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And.

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I don't know, I just got out of the habit.

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But, um, Um, the story.

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I said that I am beginning to get tired talking to myself.

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Um, shockingly, it took a decent amount of time.

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Uh, It's a tire up.

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Um, And in saying that I'm inviting anyone that.

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Is an artist, a maker, and you know, me, I.

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I, you know me.

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We literally never met.

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Um, feels like I know you and I've never seen your face.

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Um, I believe everyone is an artist in their own way.

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And if you identify as so.

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Uh, I would love to have you on the show and just talk about.

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Life and the bullshit and the magic of it.

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And, um, you know, the big questions that keep you up at night and all that good stuff.

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Uh, so if you're interested, find me on Instagram and shoot me a message.

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I would love to.

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Hear from you.

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Um, Yeah, I feel like I went into hibernation mode and I didn't really have like the capacity.

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To authentically.

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Connect with people, especially like meeting new people.

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I just have been so tired.

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And it's probably the weather getting warm again, and I'm actually getting some friggin and vitamin D and all that, but I am really craving.

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Interaction with.

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Just more people Yeah, I don't, I have just been unlike myself, but in a good way.

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Like I reached out to someone recently, like, uh, someone I've never spoken to before.

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Um, or knew of at all, just because I fell in love with her.

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A song.

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I heard her sing and now.

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Um, we might be working together and I'm just so excited and happy and.

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I'm like, oh, is this what happens when you.

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Talk to people.

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So.

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I am.

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Basically looking forward to talking to more people.

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And my own sick and twisted way.

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I have.

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Made this in my mind mean I was talking to people like making the podcast.

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Um, But really I'm alone in my basement.

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And indirectly talking to you.

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I don't have that human.

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Interaction happening.

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So.

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Andy hill.

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With that said today, I was.

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Continuing to read this book.

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Am I halfway through? Not quite, almost halfway through this book, um, to photograph is to learn how to die.

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Um, by Tim carpenter and I am.

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Absolutely loving it.

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Every part I'm loving the parts that I disagree with and loving the parts I've never thought of before.

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I'm loving the parts that I've felt inside my body for so long, but never understood how to articulate and.

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Um, He does it.

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So interestingly and I love it.

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But while I was.

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Reading today this morning.

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I wrote down two notes.

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That I wanted to just talk about out loud.

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Uh, it's really important for me to like extract the things.

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That.

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I noticed make me feel so alone.

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Inside myself that happens like in my normal goings on, in case.

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Uh, you identify with this too.

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Um, One of the things was.

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Especially when they're so innocent there.

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So there's no shame or in sit insidiousness in terms of the people involved in these conversations.

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It's truly just riveting that I'm starting to notice.

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Um, different layers of things that are social norms and common in our day-to-day lives that are actually that feel.

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Uncomfortable these days.

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And like I'm noticing them in a new light.

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Uh, so one of them.

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Uh, my partner had gone away for a handful of days and.

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When he came back, I had.

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And it was really hard.

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It's, it's really hard when I'm alone with the kids, because they're just so much more demanding of me in a different way.

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Uh, I know I travel a lot for work, so I'm gone a lot and a lot.

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Like one week a month, ish, give or take like this month.

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I haven't gone.

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Um, and I will.

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Again soon, but.

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It's just different when it's just him.

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Like.

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Versus just me.

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And while I, he was gone.

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There was a day.

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That I had remembered to bring out the garbage purely because.

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The other houses all had their garbages out and that's normally something I don't do.

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And when he came back and this is so stupidly saying it out loud, but I have to say it out loud.

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This is how I feel.

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This is how I feel.

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Goddammit.

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He was like, Oh, you, you, you took the garbage out.

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I'm like, yeah, I did.

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He's like, oh, good job.

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Like that's awesome.

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And immediately I felt myself like.

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Tents up.

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Like, I felt like.

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I felt like that little girl, when my parents would be like, so overly, um, complimentary or like, oh my gosh, like.

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Um, I don't know.

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You're so smart or you're so whatever, and I just felt like instantly, like my, in my little head, like.

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Okay.

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Line here, like as if you're.

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Measuring yourself against a wall and you put that pencil line.

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It's like, okay.

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I can never do below that now.

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I can never do below that.

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I can't ever go below that.

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And I know that he doesn't mean it like that way.

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Uh, at all at all at all.

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But when he said good job, like.

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Cause he knew it's just been so much and it's a lot for me too.

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W happy with both the kids and blah, blah, blah.

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And I was tired and all that.

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Um, So he was impressed, but then in my head I'm like, oh, no, like, is this.

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An expectation now, which it's not.

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I know it's not, that's not him.

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That's not.

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Who he is or how he would even operate, but.

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It's just so.

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Uh, Eye opening.

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Two.

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Acknowledge.

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Your role in.

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Intentions that could occur in a relationship.

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There's this meme on Instagram.

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Makes me laugh.

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So much.

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Every time we see it.

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And it's like, um, this.

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Dude, uh, stirring like very agitated and pensively and like, So aggressively during his teacup.

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And the, uh, the quote is like, when you look up toxic traits and it describes you instead of your body.

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Oh, my gosh.

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It was so funny.

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Anyway, I, uh, I just acknowledged that.

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I don't know that before I would've put my finger on that and been able to identify that.

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Uh, I think that I attribute that kind of acknowledgement and awareness to.

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The NLP.

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Uh, sessions and certification that I've taken.

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And just, I mean, in general, I guess, getting older and just.

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I don't know.

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Being on the planet longer, but.

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Aye.

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I noticed that.

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Yeah.

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Praise has always been really hard for me.

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And it's funny because I think about how.

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Hard.

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I try to do right by my kids and how I speak to them and how I don't want to.

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Oh, you know, I'll, don't compliment there.

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Looks compliment there.

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Um, you know, insides and about them as a person and this and that.

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And if they come to you with something.

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Um, don't just say good job.

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Say how did that make you feel doing that and help them think in Wordly? And all these things and.

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Who knows my, my girlfriend and I were talking and she's like, you know, there's no adults from this era yet.

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So it's like, I wonder what kind of fucked up they might be.

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I'm like, I know, I wonder, I don't know.

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I mean, I'm willing to test that out over.

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The other option, but.

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And like, of course my parents were innocently and lovingly.

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Saying like, oh my gosh, good job.

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And when my mom would brag about me and say, oh, her teacher says she soaks up everything like a sponge.

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She didn't know that I was feeling crippled.

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I was like, oh my God.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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I can never disappoint them.

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Okay.

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I have to, that was impressive.

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Okay.

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I always do that, you know? Anyway.

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So there was that there was that.

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All that came from.

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A surprise, like good job from pulling the trash cans out.

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And then.

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My other, uh, related.

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Notion here.

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Was, uh, I was talking to my friend.

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Um, dearly, dearly, dearly, close friend.

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And see.

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It was.

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I forgot what the exact context was.

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But.

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It was like, oh, how was your day? Um, well, was it, was it at least productive? Was it at least productive.

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Mm.

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This need.

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For productivity.

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Oh my God.

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I mean, this one can be unwrapped and the, it feels like.

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You know, This drum that need doesn't need to be beat anymore, but at the same time, So triggering.

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I'm like no, nothing got accomplished.

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Nothing was finished.

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I mean productive in what way? Productive in a restful way.

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Was my rust productive enough.

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Did I get to check anything off? Oh gosh.

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You ever get to the point where you're just like, I'm just so exhausted by myself.

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This mental unraveling of every thing.

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But.

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It really, really, really feels like.

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That thing where.

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On a scale of.

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Skill slash awareness, whatever it is.

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It's like.

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There's.

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Unaware unskilled.

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Aware.

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Unskilled.

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Aware skilled.

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And then unaware, skilled.

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I believe that's it.

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I don't know, maybe I messed something up, but the whole idea is that you go from not recognizing anything is an issue at all.

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And then all of a sudden you see the problem, but you don't have the skills yet to actually navigate it or.

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B.

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Uh, fluent in it in any way.

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Uh, which is enraging.

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And then you get to the point where you start to be able to work through it.

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You have to be engaged.

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It has to be this purposeful.

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Um, concentrated thing.

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And then the, the highest part of it is when you're.

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You know, the mastery quote-unquote is when you're able to navigate it.

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Unaware like completely.

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Naturally subconsciously organically there isn't efforting to achieve that outcome.

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And.

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I feel like at this point I can fluctuate between.

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Uh, in some areas of life.

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The aware unskilled and then in others, the aware.

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Skilled.

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And it's exhausting.

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To have that level of engagement.

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Uh, throughout my day.

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Sometimes.

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So anyway.

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I just wanted to bring that here.

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I feel like.

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There is.

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So, I mean, part of it is my feed, right? Everyone's algorithm is so different and what I'm being shown all the time.

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It's like all of these.

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Well, meaning.

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Uh, creators and you know, myself not, not excluded.

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Wanting to share what they believe to be.

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Um, Something that is expansive and helpful.

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And beautiful in the world.

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And when you're inundated with that from so many areas, so many angles, it's like.

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There's always something I can be doing better and everything that comes out of my mouth, I'm noticing.

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Oh, that wasn't quite the right way to say that to my kid or, oh, um, wow.

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There's some negative self-talk I need to be softer with myself.

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Well, I'm just tired.

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I'm tired.

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I'm grateful.

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I'm grateful for the awareness.

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I'm grateful for the shift in consciousness for.

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The world that I feel like it's happening, but I'm also.

329
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It's a lot.

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I want to acknowledge that if you're feeling tired too.

331
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If you're just like, I need a break.

332
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I feel like I need a break.

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I need a break from.

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Consuming.

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I just want.

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Real actual human connection and creation.

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And.

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Yeah.

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It's just hard.

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It is hard.

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It doesn't have to be hard, but sometimes it just is.

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Okay.

343
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So.

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Going back to the actual book I was reading.

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This morning.

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I wanted to read a couple of excerpts from it, just because.

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So beautiful.

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Within the pages of this book, I'm able to find so much.

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About.

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Why I do what I do.

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What is.

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Perplexing me.

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What is so clear to me, what is so mysterious to me and I don't fucking understand.

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Um, This part is why I created a conscious creator.

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This is what I believe.

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It says, um, And yet the beautiful persists and so do eloquence and depth of thought.

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And they belong to all of us because they are the most pregnant, Evidence.

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We can have of what is possible in us.

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That last sentence is everything.

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Our responsibilities to each other.

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If they're to mean much at all.

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Must encompass a commitment to the persistence of the beautiful.

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As bow observes, people seem to have entirely forgotten culture that matters for its own sake.

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Knowledge and beauty pleasure and delight the contemplation of truth.

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Irrespective of its Instrumental uses.

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The intimate encounter with another human consciousness offered by the best works of art.

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These are among the things that make life worth living.

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If we set them aside until we have made it safely through our present emergency, we will never return to them because our present emergency will never be through.

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Amen.

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That's why every single week.

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I am grateful to log into.

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Work to conscious, greater to just be.

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In like super intimate community.

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In.

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Knowing that I'm going to prioritize space for myself and also connection to others.

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And talk about just what's on.

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What's on top.

378
00:21:09,320.3456404 --> 00:21:16,850.3456404
Okay, what else do I have here? Um, There's one more that I really wanted to read.

379
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Oh, this.

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This is so cool.

381
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Okay.

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Listen to the best.

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The past.

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Obviously it's in the context of the past that the word forgetting has its everyday currency.

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Each of us has forgotten almost every last bit of our direct experience.

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So little of what we've done and seen and read and heard remains available to us.

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Most often, this is thought of negatively as in an inconvenience or a failing as laziness or a sign of diminishing capabilities.

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And it can be all of those things for sure.

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But forgetting also has a distinctively positive effect.

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The involuntary eraser.

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Of specifics is what shapes us over time as specific individuals.

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Better yet.

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The continuous and willed winnowing of experience is the reason we have art.

394
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Or imagination in the first place.

395
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In another.

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Aside here by Lewis Hyde.

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It says.

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There are then two ways for memory to destroy imagination.

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By retaining too many abstractions, thus failing to perceive fresh detail and by retaining too many details, thus failing to perceive abstractions.

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The point is worth repeating because two beneficial categories of forgetting recur throughout these notebooks.

401
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In one.

402
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Uh, mine has become too attached to its concepts or thought habits and needs to drop them.

403
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So as to attend again to detail.

404
00:22:55,70.3456404 --> 00:22:55,820.3456404
In another.

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A surfeit of detail clogs the flow of thought and must be winnowed.

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So as to see the larger shapes of concept and obstruction.

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Let us reclaim, forgetting as a component of truth.

408
00:23:10,690.3456404 --> 00:23:20,50.3456404
Let us say that the self is reborn with every breath we take, that it is constantly dropping away and coming into being as conditioned to alter.

409
00:23:22,150.3456404 --> 00:23:22,870.3456404
Let us.

410
00:23:23,170.3456404 --> 00:23:27,190.3456404
Reclaim forgetting as a component of truth.

411
00:23:30,800.3456404 --> 00:23:34,790.3456404
Did anybody else? I have.

412
00:23:35,840.3456404 --> 00:23:36,680.3456404
Uh, deep.

413
00:23:37,730.3456404 --> 00:23:39,260.3456404
Comforting feeling with that.

414
00:23:39,740.3456404 --> 00:23:43,730.3456404
Like, oh, I can be okay with a form of forgetting.

415
00:23:44,360.3456404 --> 00:23:45,950.3456404
And it makes so much sense.

416
00:23:47,120.3456404 --> 00:23:48,170.3456404
It makes so much sense.

417
00:23:48,170.3456404 --> 00:23:48,920.3456404
And this is why.

418
00:23:50,120.3456404 --> 00:23:52,190.3456404
Uh, one of the things I'm so passionate about is that.

419
00:23:53,0.3456404 --> 00:23:58,400.3456404
Um, To pull the photograph, the photographic medium.

420
00:23:58,730.3456404 --> 00:23:59,960.3456404
Away from.

421
00:24:01,70.3456404 --> 00:24:02,600.3456404
The overcrowded.

422
00:24:02,990.3456404 --> 00:24:03,590.3456404
I don't know.

423
00:24:04,280.3456404 --> 00:24:05,420.3456404
It sounds so intense.

424
00:24:05,420.3456404 --> 00:24:12,80.3456404
Like, I don't want, I'm not trying to take a stance here, but like, I feel like.

425
00:24:13,160.3456404 --> 00:24:15,500.3456404
Photographs had been washed.

426
00:24:16,40.3456404 --> 00:24:18,440.3456404
So hard with this.

427
00:24:18,980.3456404 --> 00:24:20,930.3456404
Idea that photographs are so we don't forget.

428
00:24:20,930.3456404 --> 00:24:21,590.3456404
So we don't forget.

429
00:24:21,590.3456404 --> 00:24:22,280.3456404
So we don't forget.

430
00:24:22,280.3456404 --> 00:24:22,940.3456404
So we don't forget.

431
00:24:23,270.3456404 --> 00:24:24,380.3456404
It's like, whoa.

432
00:24:26,600.3456404 --> 00:24:28,550.3456404
Photographs or so we can see.

433
00:24:29,270.3456404 --> 00:24:29,720.3456404
Now.

434
00:24:30,950.3456404 --> 00:24:32,960.3456404
So we can see it more now.

435
00:24:34,610.3456404 --> 00:24:37,460.3456404
The not forgetting is a beautiful.

436
00:24:38,570.3456404 --> 00:24:39,260.3456404
Idea.

437
00:24:39,500.3456404 --> 00:24:41,180.3456404
It's a beautiful byproduct.

438
00:24:41,510.3456404 --> 00:24:43,820.3456404
It's not always accurate.

439
00:24:44,180.3456404 --> 00:24:45,650.3456404
Even if you do have a photograph.

440
00:24:47,60.3456404 --> 00:24:49,400.3456404
It's not a sure-fire way.

441
00:24:50,60.3456404 --> 00:24:50,960.3456404
Of remembering.

442
00:24:54,500.3456404 --> 00:24:58,700.3456404
But to not only, and this is what excited me so much is that.

443
00:24:59,30.3456404 --> 00:25:00,50.3456404
To not only.

444
00:25:00,50.3456404 --> 00:25:03,470.3456404
Stop using forgetting as something negative.

445
00:25:03,890.3456404 --> 00:25:04,400.3456404
This is bad.

446
00:25:04,400.3456404 --> 00:25:04,970.3456404
This is bad.

447
00:25:05,390.3456404 --> 00:25:08,600.3456404
But to then go on to classify it as.

448
00:25:11,410.3456404 --> 00:25:16,390.3456404
A component of truth, like think about what is it to forget.

449
00:25:19,180.3456404 --> 00:25:26,140.3456404
Like, what is it to forget? I get helps us.

450
00:25:28,0.3456404 --> 00:25:29,20.3456404
Make space.

451
00:25:31,90.3456404 --> 00:25:32,410.3456404
For other things.

452
00:25:33,100.3456404 --> 00:25:34,600.3456404
That we want to remember more.

453
00:25:35,230.3456404 --> 00:25:35,770.3456404
I don't know.

454
00:25:40,900.3456404 --> 00:25:42,700.3456404
It's it's almost like a.

455
00:25:43,360.3456404 --> 00:25:46,270.3456404
Subconscious form of choosing.

456
00:25:48,220.3456404 --> 00:25:48,640.3456404
I don't know.

457
00:25:51,100.3456404 --> 00:25:52,780.3456404
But I love thinking about it.

458
00:25:54,900.3456404 --> 00:25:56,40.3456404
You know, I was.

459
00:25:56,40.3456404 --> 00:25:57,750.3456404
Having a moment, the other day in the car.

460
00:25:58,200.3456404 --> 00:25:59,280.3456404
Where I just felt.

461
00:26:00,270.3456404 --> 00:26:00,720.3456404
Like I had.

462
00:26:01,380.3456404 --> 00:26:03,330.3456404
I was on Instagram too much that day.

463
00:26:03,420.3456404 --> 00:26:13,830.3456404
And I'd seen some beautiful you to full photographs of, um, You know, some, a couple photographers and their own.

464
00:26:14,310.3456404 --> 00:26:14,790.3456404
Kids.

465
00:26:14,850.3456404 --> 00:26:20,640.3456404
And I just have this wash of like guilt and shame and I'm like, I don't photograph.

466
00:26:21,360.3456404 --> 00:26:22,530.3456404
My own family enough.

467
00:26:22,560.3456404 --> 00:26:24,0.3456404
I don't photograph them enough.

468
00:26:24,480.3456404 --> 00:26:24,960.3456404
I take.

469
00:26:25,680.3456404 --> 00:26:27,960.3456404
Cell phone photos of every single day, but I don't.

470
00:26:28,770.3456404 --> 00:26:30,450.3456404
Photograph them enough.

471
00:26:31,440.3456404 --> 00:26:32,670.3456404
And I'm like, hold on a second.

472
00:26:34,430.3456404 --> 00:26:48,350.3456404
Is that true? Is that really true? Why am I wanting to photograph them more? Is it because I have intimate access to them and I want to be.

473
00:26:48,350.3456404 --> 00:26:49,400.3456404
Exercising that.

474
00:26:51,230.3456404 --> 00:26:55,550.3456404
Is it because I don't feel like I'm going to.

475
00:26:55,550.3456404 --> 00:26:56,660.3456404
Be able to.

476
00:26:57,680.3456404 --> 00:26:58,700.3456404
Remember.

477
00:26:59,300.3456404 --> 00:27:00,770.3456404
As vividly.

478
00:27:01,610.3456404 --> 00:27:02,360.3456404
Don't forget.

479
00:27:03,200.3456404 --> 00:27:04,190.3456404
I'm like what I just talked about.

480
00:27:06,230.3456404 --> 00:27:06,980.3456404
Or.

481
00:27:08,870.3456404 --> 00:27:09,290.3456404
Is it.

482
00:27:09,620.3456404 --> 00:27:11,60.3456404
A question of.

483
00:27:12,760.3456404 --> 00:27:14,50.3456404
I'm scared.

484
00:27:14,50.3456404 --> 00:27:16,420.3456404
I am not seeing them as deeply.

485
00:27:16,810.3456404 --> 00:27:17,290.3456404
Now.

486
00:27:20,450.3456404 --> 00:27:22,640.3456404
And then when I got to the now part.

487
00:27:22,820.3456404 --> 00:27:24,110.3456404
Like, that's not true.

488
00:27:25,670.3456404 --> 00:27:26,780.3456404
I know I am.

489
00:27:28,430.3456404 --> 00:27:28,880.3456404
Aye.

490
00:27:29,180.3456404 --> 00:27:29,690.3456404
Aye.

491
00:27:30,20.3456404 --> 00:27:31,310.3456404
In that moment, have those.

492
00:27:32,240.3456404 --> 00:27:36,80.3456404
Recollections of all the times, just in the past couple of days where.

493
00:27:37,400.3456404 --> 00:27:41,0.3456404
I'll be in a moment looking at my kids or my family and see something.

494
00:27:41,0.3456404 --> 00:27:41,480.3456404
And I just.

495
00:27:41,960.3456404 --> 00:27:43,820.3456404
It's almost like sound goes away.

496
00:27:44,30.3456404 --> 00:27:50,930.3456404
Uh, that's something, this is something that I talk about in my first ever course that I created manifest your memories.

497
00:27:51,470.3456404 --> 00:27:51,890.3456404
And.

498
00:27:52,910.3456404 --> 00:27:54,410.3456404
This idea of.

499
00:27:55,940.3456404 --> 00:27:57,410.3456404
Heightening our senses.

500
00:27:57,650.3456404 --> 00:28:03,560.3456404
When if you like, hold your ears to see better close your eyes to hear better.

501
00:28:03,860.3456404 --> 00:28:08,660.3456404
And like what happens when you do both and you go inside yourself.

502
00:28:09,320.3456404 --> 00:28:13,970.3456404
Um, And this idea that we don't even have to take a picture too.

503
00:28:14,630.3456404 --> 00:28:17,600.3456404
Have that experience of like seeing deeper into a moment.

504
00:28:17,840.3456404 --> 00:28:21,230.3456404
The thing that the photograph helps us do taking the pictures helps us do.

505
00:28:21,950.3456404 --> 00:28:23,240.3456404
It's a choice.

506
00:28:23,240.3456404 --> 00:28:23,840.3456404
It's not.

507
00:28:25,790.3456404 --> 00:28:28,10.3456404
Um, a requirement or a burden.

508
00:28:29,270.3456404 --> 00:28:31,160.3456404
It's not supposed to be a burden, right.

509
00:28:33,950.3456404 --> 00:28:34,280.3456404
Is it.

510
00:28:34,790.3456404 --> 00:28:35,60.3456404
I don't know.

511
00:28:42,500.3456404 --> 00:28:44,90.3456404
It's really hard for me too.

512
00:28:44,900.3456404 --> 00:28:49,550.3456404
Say anything without having that thought of like, well, it could be for a person that could be someone's truth.

513
00:28:49,550.3456404 --> 00:28:50,600.3456404
That could be someone's truth.

514
00:28:51,770.3456404 --> 00:28:54,800.3456404
But I can only speak to mine and mine.

515
00:28:55,310.3456404 --> 00:28:55,940.3456404
Is that.

516
00:29:01,880.3456404 --> 00:29:03,530.3456404
I know it's really healthy, too.

517
00:29:03,860.3456404 --> 00:29:08,990.3456404
Question yourself and do that gut check and, you know, confirm that your.

518
00:29:09,500.3456404 --> 00:29:11,60.3456404
Kind of living life the way you want to live it.

519
00:29:12,170.3456404 --> 00:29:15,200.3456404
And being in your life the way you want to be in your life.

520
00:29:17,210.3456404 --> 00:29:22,280.3456404
But as I've reflected in the last couple of podcast episodes about being kind of exhausted.

521
00:29:22,730.3456404 --> 00:29:24,380.3456404
With all the intentionality.

522
00:29:25,860.3456404 --> 00:29:31,650.3456404
Is there a time and space where I have that feeling that pain of like guilt or shame.

523
00:29:31,680.3456404 --> 00:29:32,760.3456404
And I could just.

524
00:29:34,950.3456404 --> 00:29:37,50.3456404
Let go and trust myself and to know.

525
00:29:37,680.3456404 --> 00:29:38,160.3456404
That.

526
00:29:39,900.3456404 --> 00:29:40,890.3456404
When it's right.

527
00:29:40,950.3456404 --> 00:29:42,270.3456404
And when it's for.

528
00:29:43,620.3456404 --> 00:29:46,230.3456404
Me and the purity of the act.

529
00:29:47,100.3456404 --> 00:29:49,650.3456404
That actual camera gets picked up.

530
00:29:49,830.3456404 --> 00:29:52,20.3456404
Like those photographs get made in that way.

531
00:29:55,260.3456404 --> 00:29:57,720.3456404
And those cell phone photographs are no less.

532
00:29:58,950.3456404 --> 00:30:02,460.3456404
No less worthy than the photographs I would take.

533
00:30:03,210.3456404 --> 00:30:06,30.3456404
Uh, with my quote unquote real camera.

534
00:30:07,710.3456404 --> 00:30:15,810.3456404
Are you a photographer who feels like they don't photograph their family enough? Maybe you have the opposite problem.

535
00:30:15,810.3456404 --> 00:30:18,720.3456404
Maybe you feel like you photograph them all the time and.

536
00:30:19,350.3456404 --> 00:30:22,470.3456404
Maybe we should create some space around it or whatever.

537
00:30:25,890.3456404 --> 00:30:26,190.3456404
Hm.

538
00:30:27,690.3456404 --> 00:30:28,230.3456404
I don't know.

539
00:30:31,190.3456404 --> 00:30:34,130.3456404
I feel so lucky to have this space.

540
00:30:34,730.3456404 --> 00:30:38,480.3456404
That I come to and speak out loud.

541
00:30:38,480.3456404 --> 00:30:40,70.3456404
All of like the inner most.

542
00:30:40,700.3456404 --> 00:30:43,880.3456404
Nooks and crannies that run rampant in my brain.

543
00:30:44,540.3456404 --> 00:30:45,320.3456404
Because.

544
00:30:45,320.3456404 --> 00:30:48,290.3456404
Well, when I, I really believe it's so important.

545
00:30:48,740.3456404 --> 00:30:54,770.3456404
To have this level of transparency and honesty and, uh, I've personally been hurt.

546
00:30:55,250.3456404 --> 00:31:02,420.3456404
Uh, and suffered the consequence of not being privy to the truth of life experiences.

547
00:31:02,630.3456404 --> 00:31:03,470.3456404
Myself.

548
00:31:04,370.3456404 --> 00:31:12,710.3456404
In, uh, you know, so many times where I'm like, I just wish I would've known that this was possible, or I wish that I would've had some awareness or.

549
00:31:13,250.3456404 --> 00:31:15,950.3456404
I feel like I've been lied to by no one and everyone.

550
00:31:17,600.3456404 --> 00:31:23,270.3456404
So there's that element and there's also the element of, you know, inwardly for myself.

551
00:31:23,750.3456404 --> 00:31:27,440.3456404
If I didn't have this platform, if I didn't have this podcast that.

552
00:31:28,580.3456404 --> 00:31:34,190.3456404
Created the space for me to kind of get in with the weeds of this and like pick it apart and speak it out loud.

553
00:31:34,190.3456404 --> 00:31:34,340.3456404
And.

554
00:31:35,30.3456404 --> 00:31:36,470.3456404
You know, voice it and give it.

555
00:31:37,160.3456404 --> 00:31:37,970.3456404
The air.

556
00:31:38,660.3456404 --> 00:31:39,440.3456404
And it kind of.

557
00:31:40,400.3456404 --> 00:31:44,960.3456404
Makes it real and also lets the air out of at the same time, it helps me move with it.

558
00:31:45,440.3456404 --> 00:31:48,320.3456404
Um, in a lighter way, that kind of reminds me of.

559
00:31:48,830.3456404 --> 00:31:52,160.3456404
Uh, an NLP process where it's like a really heavy.

560
00:31:52,580.3456404 --> 00:32:01,580.3456404
Thing to talk about, and it can be ha feel heavy to be in that process where you're reflecting on a memory and being asked these really tough questions.

561
00:32:01,940.3456404 --> 00:32:07,370.3456404
But then afterwards there's such a freedom and expansive feeling that comes with it.

562
00:32:07,370.3456404 --> 00:32:08,510.3456404
And then you just walk.

563
00:32:08,870.3456404 --> 00:32:10,820.3456404
Through your life in this new way.

564
00:32:11,180.3456404 --> 00:32:14,180.3456404
And I feel like I'm able to do that every week.

565
00:32:14,780.3456404 --> 00:32:16,70.3456404
Uh, with.

566
00:32:16,820.3456404 --> 00:32:18,560.3456404
With the things that I ended up sharing.

567
00:32:18,560.3456404 --> 00:32:24,980.3456404
So I just, um, thank you from the bottom of my heart for coming to the space and.

568
00:32:27,380.3456404 --> 00:32:30,290.3456404
And listening to my truth and I'm.

569
00:32:31,640.3456404 --> 00:32:34,850.3456404
I really, really, really, really, truly hope that.

570
00:32:35,570.3456404 --> 00:32:36,830.3456404
It serves you.

571
00:32:37,710.3456404 --> 00:32:38,970.3456404
however you need it.

572
00:32:39,270.3456404 --> 00:32:43,500.3456404
However, even if it's just chuckling and being like, oh my God, this freak.

573
00:32:48,720.3456404 --> 00:32:50,250.3456404
I doubt it.

574
00:32:50,310.3456404 --> 00:32:52,470.3456404
I mean, cause if you're listening, you're a freak D.

575
00:32:55,560.3456404 --> 00:32:56,40.3456404
Okay.

576
00:32:56,490.3456404 --> 00:32:58,860.3456404
I think that signifies the end of this episode.

577
00:32:59,760.3456404 --> 00:33:02,970.3456404
Like now I'm like giggling with the person that's not here in front of me.

578
00:33:06,270.3456404 --> 00:33:06,780.3456404
Okay.

579
00:33:07,200.3456404 --> 00:33:07,770.3456404
Okay.

580
00:33:07,800.3456404 --> 00:33:09,240.3456404
So I.

581
00:33:09,970.3456404 --> 00:33:12,790.3456404
I am letting you know.

582
00:33:13,390.3456404 --> 00:33:19,0.3456404
That conscious creator is my monthly membership for.

583
00:33:20,380.3456404 --> 00:33:26,140.3456404
All forms of creatives, all forms of makers, all forms of artists to come together every week.

584
00:33:26,560.3456404 --> 00:33:28,600.3456404
Uh, the first hour is Ollie's.

585
00:33:29,320.3456404 --> 00:33:33,940.3456404
Coworking we sign on, we say, hello, what you doing? Okay, we're going on? Mute.

586
00:33:34,210.3456404 --> 00:33:36,250.3456404
Take our cameras off for the first hour.

587
00:33:36,730.3456404 --> 00:33:49,270.3456404
And we just work, whatever that is, whether it's closing your eyes for an hour, because you just need the space to stare at a wall or the inside of your eyelids or you're editing photos or you're writing whatever.

588
00:33:49,660.3456404 --> 00:33:51,640.3456404
And then that second hour we come off mute.

589
00:33:52,90.3456404 --> 00:33:53,50.3456404
And we talk about.

590
00:33:53,470.3456404 --> 00:33:59,230.3456404
What's up in life in art and what we just worked on in what we want to work on.

591
00:33:59,650.3456404 --> 00:34:03,250.3456404
And, um, yeah, and I, I absolutely love holding the space.

592
00:34:03,310.3456404 --> 00:34:09,220.3456404
I am a certified NLP practitioner, so I love introducing some quantum linguistic.

593
00:34:09,610.3456404 --> 00:34:11,170.3456404
Prompts and questions.

594
00:34:11,530.3456404 --> 00:34:15,640.3456404
And supports throughout, um, the conversation, if that is.

595
00:34:16,150.3456404 --> 00:34:17,110.3456404
Needed at all.

596
00:34:17,110.3456404 --> 00:34:19,570.3456404
And, um, yeah.

597
00:34:19,930.3456404 --> 00:34:23,170.3456404
Having these honest conversations with like-minded souls.

598
00:34:23,590.3456404 --> 00:34:26,200.3456404
Like hearted souls, we have different minds, but.

599
00:34:27,220.3456404 --> 00:34:28,360.3456404
I find that our hearts.

600
00:34:28,810.3456404 --> 00:34:30,220.3456404
Are the things that are most connected.

601
00:34:30,400.3456404 --> 00:34:30,610.3456404
So.

602
00:34:32,260.3456404 --> 00:34:34,150.3456404
Any who there she blows.

603
00:34:34,180.3456404 --> 00:34:40,750.3456404
If, um, you think of anyone that this would serve, feel free to forward them.

604
00:34:40,870.3456404 --> 00:34:43,480.3456404
Um, this podcast episode, when you share the.

605
00:34:44,20.3456404 --> 00:34:46,450.3456404
The podcast, more people like you can find it.

606
00:34:46,450.3456404 --> 00:34:51,460.3456404
So I deeply appreciate it and I will catch you next week.

607
00:34:52,723.3388377 --> 00:34:55,943.3388377
This has been an Awkward Sage Production.